Thu 21 Feb 2008
A Second Detour from the Steps to Success
Posted by ray under Written Plan
Tonight I was going to round off the series; but like the last detour, there is a very clear (and rare) pattern I’d like to consider.
Last night I exited crude oil longs I initiated on Jan 24 at 89.525 (basis March). If you are a reader of Nature of Trends, see if you can recognise the current pattern before expanding Figure 1. If you have not read the book, then go to Figure 1 now.
FIGURE 1 Crude Oil Perpetual
The great thing about the Horizontal Terminal is that if it fails, then we have a projection target for the upside breakout. Let’s firstly consider the boundaries of the pattern.
The lower boundary in the pattern is horizontal rather the usual low lower than ‘B’. For the pattern to complete we need ‘E’ preferably to hold below the maximum extension or at least not accept above it. The maximum extension is either 10% of XA or 20% of AB whichever is the greater. Figure 2 shows that this maximum extension comes in at 103.30
FIGURE 2 Maximum Extension
Entry for the pattern is a bearish conviction close below the Primary Sell Zone. Readers of the blog know that I use the 1/8 retracement levels as a substitute for the Market Profile 3rd standard deviation. Figure 3 shows how closely the two often correlate.
FIGURE 3 Primary Sell Zone
Based on the Market Profile, the close would need to be below 98.63 basis the CSI Perpetual Contract. Basis the April contract (and this is the entry price I’d take), the entry price would be below 98.525. The stop above the maximum extension (103.30) would be too large for me. Hence my stop will be:
100.725 + 10% of the range from the current high (100.725 basis April) to the low of the entry bar.
My core profit target would be around 86.40. Assuming we get in at around 97.8, we’d be risking around 3 points for a possible 12-point gain, a reasonable risk:reward. On top of that, this is a forecasting pattern and hence we can look for much more if the pattern plays out.
That’s where the Nature of Trend material would take the analysis. If you use the Ray Wave, then we can use it to provide the context, which will either confirm or cast doubt on the Horizontal Terminal scenario. I use the Ray Wave as a roadmap and context validation tool.
Figure 4 shows 3-wave structures that have hit a cluster of price targets around 99 to 100 basis the Perpetual Contract. It also shows the two possible scenarios:
- A completion of the Horizontal Terminal [Wave (3) ends around last night’s high] and
- A failure of the Horizontal Terminal {Wave (3) ended at A and formed wave [1]}. If this proves to be the case, then the Ray Wave projects a target to 115.
I favour the first scenario unless we have a strong bar up in the next three days breaking to new highs and accepting above 103.30
FIGURE 4 Ray Wave



























February 21st, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Does that come under the broad heading

“fish oil”
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:11 am
Mate
I was about to delete the comment as Spam until I read e-mail address. It looked fishy (G)
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 am
Ray
Your analysis has been spot on, ie the setup zone and trigger for entry to sell came to pass for QMJ8.
However, when there was trigger to sell QMJ8 below 98.52, I decided to put in a limit order to sell higher at 98.900 as it would retrace, and am pleased it was soon filled. I put in a tight stop at 100.925 risking 2.025 pt for a possible gain of 12.50 pt.
I started to trade intra-day in the first year of trading, gradually easing into swing/position trading last year, my second year of trading, and I must say swing/position trading does take a lot of tensions off me. Now I learn to step away from the pc and monitor every half hour or so and with a stop always in place, I can turn in early by about 1 am Singapore time when US market is having a lunch-break. There is no needfor me to stay up till the close unless the patterns tell me otherwise.
This is exactly what I did last night, with all my stops in for my FX and Crude, I hit the sack by about 1 am Singtime.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:49 am
Great Ana! Cross my fingers for the trade. Best of luck.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 am
Stuart, ‘fish oil’? Am I missing something?
I am more concerned with ’snake oil’.
Who ?
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:01 am
Ana, is this “the” Stuart the pilot?
I agree with you, too. A step back from daytrading into a higher time frame position is much less taxing emotionally. When I can leave the office with a stop in place and monitor a position on my cell phone when I’m traveling, I’m certainly more relaxed.
Nice post, Ray. Are you still sold out of your “Ray Wave” books?
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:10 am
Hi Jeff
I am not so much sold out as selling the copyright to a publisher.
There will be videos on sale on BS, Mkt Prof, and RW end Feb/early March. The BS video set identifies what I believe are the key ideas of NOT
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:37 am
“fish oil’ is my sick sense of humour with regard to “feed fish of teach to fish” bog a few days ago. Sorry, a little obtuse.
Ana-san
I like your style with getting the trigger, then waiting for a better fill on a limit order. Ray and I played with this on a S&P breakout strategy once before. It works really well, except on the really good trades that you don’t want to miss, where the trigger is passed, and the market doesn’t look back. When it does work it reduces your risk massively though.
Stuart
February 22nd, 2008 at 5:35 am
Hi Jeff the Pilot
Yes, Stuart the Pilot, is full of mischief, especially with our mentor! I concur with you, Stuart, that sometimes, the price may never retrace and then one would miss a good entry, and a better trade. Lady Luck was with me last night and the order was filled and I believe the market is still going my way!
Learning to trade on a higher time frame is what newbies should aspire to to make our profits run and also to retreat from the pc to relax, Jeff.
Nice catching up with you two winged-pilots.
Time to taxi down at Changi Airport!