Thu 3 Apr 2008
ES Trend Day Pre-Conditions
Posted by ray under Written Plan
I was looking for a way to round off the current series when Ms Ana Wang, student and friend, referred me to the latest blog by Dr. Steenbarger (http://traderfeed.blogspot.com/). He wrote on the characteristics he looks for in trend days. I thought: ‘Great topic to round off the series!’ Thanks Brett.
Since my approach to day trading relies heavily on the Market Profile, my tendency is to automatically assess: is today likely to be a rotational or one time-frame market? For one-timeframe markets (trend days), I first look at the context to see if the context supports a possible trend day.
Generally, I perform context analysis on the cash S&P because I find it a more reliable analysis.
Figure 1 S&P Cash
Figure 1 shows the three contextual conditions that pointed to a possible trend day on April 1.
- The buy signal generated by the 5-d Spring Change in Trend Pattern that projects a target to at least 1396.
- The failure of the market to follow through on the downside volume generated on March 28 2008,
- The market holding the bottom of the value area on March 31st i.e. there was no acceptance below 1313.
The next condition is the open of today relative to yesterday’s value area. If the market opens above yesterday’s value area, then we are more likely to have a trend day.
The third condition which helps identify a trend day before it occurs is the narrow range day - what Tony Crable called an NR4 (i.e. a day where the range is the smallest of ‘x’ days. NR4 means the narrowest of the last 4 days. It is of additional significance if the day is an inside day - INR4). I look for at least an NR4. The greater the number of days, the more likely a trend day can develop.
I also look at O’Connors Historical Volatility Ratio (HVR). If the HVR (5 and 100) touches 0.5 or less, then the probability of a trend day occurring rises. (http://www.transitionstrading.com/hv.htm)
Figure 2 shows the HVR and NR4
Figure 2 HVR & NR4
Finally if there is an open gap of at least 0.40% (rounded to first decimal place), I utilize the ‘open-gap’ behavioural parameter: this states that if there is an open-gap of at least 0.4% and the market fails to close at least 50% of the gap in the first 60-minute of trading, a breakout of the 60-minute range in the direction will probably signal the start of a trend day.
The above conditions prepare us for a trend day. Let’s turn to managing the trend day once it has started.
Yesterday’s blog (ES Managing Trades on a Slow Trend Day) showed how to manage a slow trend day. The other types of trend day are double distribution trend day and the Steidlmayer Bull or Bear Pattern. The first type starts with a rotation and generally does not develop where there is gap-open and the market moves in the direction of the gap. It tends to occur where the market moves contra the gap-open and/or where the market opens or near the previous day’s close.
Figure 3 shows this. We see the market closing at 1374.4 (N) and the market opening at around 1375 to 1377 (blue arrow). The market rotated until the J period. At J, it tried to break out and failed. This started a double distribution trend day down.
Figure 3 Double Distribution Trend Day
Once the vertical move begins, we can manage the trend day in the same way as the Slow Trend Day. This trade management method will stop you out once rotation begin so you won’t capture the part of the move that closes at the extreme of the day. But, it’s a simple management method and it will capture the directional portion of the move.
The final type is not a traditional Market Profile pattern. I derive it from Pete’s evolution of the traditional Market Profile and it is probably the most common of the three occurring today.
Generally the rotational aspect of the pattern sets up the day before. Today the market opens and starts the directional move which continues until the last hour of so of the day - at that time, rotation begins. Managing this trend day in the way we discussed yesterday, will achieve great results. Figure 4 is an example of the Steidlmayer Distribution down trend day.
Figure 4 Steidlmayer Distribution Trend Day



























April 3rd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
MEMO
1. Mentor Ray invited back to CNBC Asia Cashflow at Spore 11 am - noon time on Friday Apr 4, 08
2. Cross ref to Traderfeed:
Ramon has left a new comment on the post “Catching Trend Days in the Stock Market”:
Hi Brett
It may sound strange but I agree with everyone here even though there are conflicting sentiments.
Definitely - day traders will improve their bottom line if they learn to distinguish trend day potential. Failing to do so can be dangerous to one’s pocket. Your post went a long way to providing a resource to spot trend day potential.
Another resource is the Market Profile. Jim Dalton’s ‘Mind Over Markets’ is a great learning asset, especially for this topic.
BTW: famed Bond pit trader Tom Baldwin used to say that he’d give back a month’s fading profits on a trend day. At least lavonne made a profit. Well done lavonne!
But, I also agree with Ana. Many day traders I have met are not suited to this timeframe.
I believe that the main component of timeframe suitability (like trading style and tools) is our personality. They would be better off with swing or position trades -Ana’s ‘buy and hold’.
Here’s why: a trade requires two different states of mind. In the setup state, we need to be patient, letting the market reveal its hand. In the action phase, once the setup and trigger patterns are complete, we need act promptly and decisively.
The shorter the timeframe being traded, the more the two states tend to merge.
For many, this merging just does not suit their personality. Yet they continue to day trade usually because they are insuffiently capitalised for a swing or position trade; and/or they have a fear of gaps.
Finally, Brett - thanks for your blog. It’s a fab resource on many topics. I am sure it’s appreciated by all your readers.
ray
April 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Hi Ray,
Just a thot pertaining to the post about ES.
Even if we make a test towards 1396 and pullback from there, the reversal may turn out to be only a retracement for a 2nd test. How do we identify whether the selldown is which R?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Hi Derrick
Thanks for dropping a line.
True, a pullback from 196 to 1272 may be only a re-test.
But whether it’s a 2nd test or the start of the downtrend, a move that starts from within the Primary Sell Zone 1396 to 1380 (basis cash)has a target of the Primary Buy Zone 1272 to 1288 basis cash.
Once we get down there, to assess if the Primary Buy Zone is likely to give way, I’d look at how the market moved down and what it was doing e.g. are we accepting prices within the PBZ? Did the market pick up steam as it moved to the zone or did it contract etc.
If 1396 gives way but we hold below 1405 (basis cash), then breach of 1272 is probable. But I’d apply the same tests: how the market moved down and what it was doing
April 4th, 2008 at 9:08 am
MEMO
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