Tue 3 Jun 2008
What Volume Figures to Use?
Posted by ray under Written Plan
In relation to last night’s post, Manish first asked: “Which volume number should one use?”
I use the average volume contained in a swing. But before I discuss that idea, we need to address the second question: what data source do I use? To answer that question we first need to understand the impact of the quarterly futures roll on volume.
Figure 1 shows CSI’s Perpetual contract for the S&P Futures. Notice how the volume peaks at roll-over and declines and starts the process all over again. This ‘roll-volume’ affects the volume in the cash because the US market is relatively efficient; consequently, there is some relationship between cash and futures volumes during futures roll-over.
FIGURE 1 CSI S&P Perpetual
Figure 2 shows the Cash S&P for the same period as Figure 1.
FIGURE 2 Cash S&P
I prefer to use normalized volume i.e. volume that identifies ‘normal’ volume for a period and then is used as a reference to plot ‘today’s volume ‘. The best service for the US Stock Markets is Market Volume (http://www.marketvolume.com/). Figure 3 shows Market Volume for the same period as Figures 1 and 2. (Yes, the service includes intra-day volume).
FIGURE 3 Normalized S&P Volume
For other futures markets I use software I had written for me to produce normalized volume.
(My program is not commercially available. However, a STC student, Kym Haines <khaines@bigpond.com>, created a program that takes a data base in ASCII format of normal contracts and converts the contracts into one with ‘normalized’ volume. This is an excellent program. I subjected it to rigorous testing and the results produced were robust.
Kym made if freely available to STCers; I don’t know if he will sell it. If you are interested in buying, you can always ask him).
So for cash indices, I use normalized volume of the share volume transacted at the exchange; for futures contracts I use normalized volume derived from CSI’s data. As we may expect, the futures contracts provide a much greater contrast between normalized volume and that reported by the exchanges.
Now that I have answered that question, let’s turn to ‘average volume’. All I do here is average the volume in the data set I want to measure. Market-Analyst (http://www.market-analyst.com/) has a tool, ‘the probability box’, that does this automatically for me over the range I choose.
Finally as far as Open Interest is concerned, I use it in COT data format. For this I rely on COT services produced by Floyd Upperman (http://www.floydupperman.com/) and Steve Briese (http://www.insidercapital.com/) [The service is called: Bullish Review of Commodity Insiders]. Note that Steve has 2 other advisory services - Insider Futures and Insider Currencies. I don’t use these.



























June 3rd, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Hi Ray,
Is there any website which you can find all exchanges volume in single page? Thanks
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
If I may add from MarketVolume:
Short-Term Volume Surges: These are volume surges that potentially affect market trends over the short-term ( from one to several days).
Mid-Term Volume Surges: These are volume surges that potentially affect the market over the mid-term ( from several weeks to several months).
Long-Term Volume Surges: These are volume surges that have the potential to affect market direction over the long-term ( for up to several years).
Critical Volume
Critical volume represents the amount of volume that is required to cause the market to Reverse.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Hi Jordan
Not that I know of. Perhaps a reader may know of such a site?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Hi Ana
Thank you for sharing.
While I do subscribe to Marlet Volume for its normalized volume, I don’t agree with its view of the use of volume. Market Volume seeks to substitute a simple indicator for market structure.
I am in the Wyckoff camp that sees volume as an indicator signaling continuation or change of the current market direction. How to interpret this indicator depends largely on context