Wed 19 Dec 2007
Whither S&P?
Posted by ray under Written Plan
I take the view that the S&P (ES H8) is on the cusp.
In “The US$ and the Stock Market”, I outlined my view of the fundamental context for the US stock market.
Technically:
The 12-month swing shows that a close below 1455 would signal an Upthrust Change in Trend Sell Signal. See Figure 1.
FIGURE 1 12-M S&P Cash
The 13-week swing and Ray Wave show that the market is either in the process of forming a wave:4 Irregular.
Or it shows that the market has already triggered an Upthrust CIT pattern, and we need only see a Whole Point Count (WPC) to confirm (see Nature of Trends). I have taken the former view and I am looking for one more high to complete the 5-wave structure. In this interpretation, I am influenced by the fundamental context.
Should the market break below 1370 (basis cash) and form a 13-w WPC, then I’d change my view.
Since the longer-term charts favour a continuation of the uptrend, I have been playing the S&Ps from the long side. On Nov 27th I went long and exited 1/3 positions on Dec 10th. I brought my stops on 1/3 of the position under 1427.6 and 1/3 to breakeven. I based the stops on Market Profile theory:
- The 1/3 exit was at the top of the Value Area (Zone 1 high).
- The second 1/3 stop is under the Value Area(Zone 1 low);
- The last 1/3’s stop at breakeven is to protect a position against loss where the environment for the long is deteriorating. Figure 3 shows the profile.
FIGURE 3 18-d & Market Profile
This is where the market stands for me. I am not keen to add to my positions given my view that this is the last leg up and that there are doubts about the continuation of the uptrend.
But if I did want to take a position what would I look for?
- The market is in a Sideways Market Zone (78.6% retracement) Figure 4
FIGURE 4 Sideways Zones
- There was a cycle low on December 18th
- Sentiment indicators (COT) is bullish (see below)
- There are three statistical edges suggesting the low is in (see below for an example)
- We had a Market Profile Test Day (read possible change of direction day). To confirm the test day, we need to see strong buying today.
Sentiment indicators and statistical data all suggest a rally from here. I use Floyd Upperman’s data for COT (https://www.upperman.com).
An example of statistical setup that is present answers this question: ”How often would I be profitable if I bought on the close Monday (Dec 17) of option expiration week if the on that day the S&P hit at least a 2-week low and I held the position for one week”?
The answer is since 1950 we have had 6 winners from 7 trades. The average drawdown is -0.6% compared to an average gain of +2.2%.
Statistical setups I gather from various sources: the one above from www.sentiment trader.com; others include, http://traderfeed.blogspot.com/ and http://www.stocktradersalmanac.com
So I have a zone and setups. What I need is a trigger and initial stop. But before considering that, I need to consider one possible bearish event.
The market came off the top of the Value Area (Zone 1 high); if it breaks the low of the Value Area (Zone 1 low) without first going to the Primary Sell Zone (Zone 2 high to 1576.10 basis cash), the market is telling us that the high probability event is a change in trend from up to down is happening. That assumption will be confirmed with a WPC below 1370.6 basis cash.
So, if I were to take a position tonight, I’d be looking for signs that the market will rally. We had a ‘test’ day yesterday on the Profile: Neutral Day closing in the middle quadrant. (See Figure 5). So, what we need to see is evidence of strong buying.
FIGURE 5 Market Profile
Today’s open will be important.
Ideally, we’ll see a Drive or Test Open (see Mind Over Markets) to the upside. This will suggest a rotational day giving traders time to get set at or below today’s developing value area. If we get a test or drive open, we can set the initial stop for the day below the low of today or yesterday. The safest stop would be below the 18-d Value Area. (See Figure 3).
Well there you have it. A Ben Hur of a blog (i.e. a very long blog). All the best and take care out there.



























December 19th, 2007 at 10:58 am
As an STCer, I wish to add that some of the jargon used may not be easy read. However, terms like Upthrust, CIT, can be readily found in Chapter 2 of The Nature of Trends, and also WPC.
A basic understanding of Market Profile also helps to follow the post of ES or S&P.
December 19th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
hello ray : great post, wish you gave courses in the us. for now the book will do. do you use m/delta to superimpose the market profile graph on the chart pattern chart?. or do you use your other software. just trying to find out how to do it, since i don’t have any of them. i find that your approach makes sense to me. but i need to read a lot yet. as an aside have you checked alex roslin’s cot site and the smart money tracker blog. they also follow cot reports. any comments on them will be appreciated, tks
December 20th, 2007 at 12:26 am
Hi Anna
Thanks for filling in the gaps
December 20th, 2007 at 12:35 am
Hi Leon
Thank you.
I use Market-Analyst Pro and MDelta for Market Profile analysis.
I use MA to look at the Profiles composed of inter-day (monthly, weekly and daily) data; I use MD for intra-day (30 mins etc).
Both programs provide info not available from the other.
MD e.g. provides real-time volume so I can make an immdeiate assessment if prices are being accepted or rejected at a certain price level - what Pete Steidlmayer called ‘present tense’ information.
For those that are using MD: By using Delta and using a large variable (ES 2000 mins), you can x-ray the market and see if vol and price direction match up. When they concur, the probability of continuation is greater